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acolo sus un cetatsean sa exprimat despre carding ... de ce il crezi ramas de timp?
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Nae, nu e ramas in timp... e doar modul cel mai primitiv si \\\"romantik\\\" de frauda elktronika...care se foloseste la scara larga si in ziua de azi...si va exista atata timp cat vor exista CC-urile...
gr8dude said:trebuie sa scriu asta numaidecit
cine sunt hackerii? cum definim cuvintul dat? spun oare filmele dreptatea?
raspunsul il puteti gasi in 'the jargon file', http://www.retrologic.com/jargon/H/hacker.html
hacker: n.
[originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]
1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.
2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.
4. A person who is good at programming quickly.
5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)
6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.
7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.
8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker, network hacker. The correct term for this sense is cracker.
The term ‘hacker’ also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see the network. For discussion of some of the basics of this culture, see the How To Become A Hacker FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic).
It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled bogus). See also geek, wannabee.
This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab. We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the mid-1950s.
cititi docul, acolo este si un compartiment special care explica care e diferenta dintre un hacker si un cracker. [ceea ce confunda marea parte a populatiei]
p.s "primitiv si romantic" - dovezi, argumente... te-ai dat cu parerea - dezvolta pe intelesul tuturor...
\\\"[LegioN said:\\\"]1. \\\"e doar modul cel mai primitiv si \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"romantik\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" de frauda elktronika\\\"
2. \\\"daca tu consideri cardingul o forma avansata si generala a Hack-ului\\\"
tu apredeleshte-te - graesti de frauda, hacking sau iti pui gura-n ghips.
si data viitoare cind o sa-ti para ca \\\"te-ai lamurit\\\" cu opinia ta despre oameni - dati doua palme peste fatza si tasi din gura...
carding nu insamna: m-am skentuit cu unu pe mirc - ni-o dat un card - ni-am luat un domen - ni-am mai luat un dostup la vun xxx site - am facut o laba - si m-am gindit si carder pesdos is...
de fapt eu nish nu vreu sa insherc sa-ti lamuresc - ca nu ini fasi nish o plashere, ca chestia asta ii deloc \\\"primitva si romantica\\\" - si aduce US pierderi de zeci de miliarde in fiecare an... si pierderile estea nu vin de la de-aestia care cumpara domenuri si alte kkturi.
unika shi vreu - stii cum in kinteku shela \\\"nu vorbi fara sa stii.. nu hali meru ce auzi de la altii...\\\" - ap traje concluzii...
ori daca vrei sa ma contrazishi - adu-mi nishte argumente sa ramin cu gura cascata - si sa zic: da, aista stie despre shi graeshte...
si stergeti iconitza sheea interesanta din post - ca din pakate eu n-am aisi sa-ti pun una cu inscriptzia \\\"kele de p#la\\\" .... da daca a trebui - oi desena una special pt tine...
best regards,
Legion.